SSL certificate update

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My domain is: sydneybackgammonclub.org.au I received a notification that the SSL certificate is going to expire in 19 days. This is my first renewal. I thought it was automatic. Please advise.

I ran this command:

It produced this output:

My web server is (include version):

The operating system my web server runs on is (include version):

My hosting provider, if applicable, is:

I can login to a root shell on my machine (yes or no, or I don't know):

I'm using a control panel to manage my site (no, or provide the name and version of the control panel):

The version of my client is (e.g. output of certbot --version or certbot-auto --version if you're using Certbot):

I'll start with the obvious: I advise that you read [and understand] the entire email.
If you don't understand it, try reading it again.

We can see here from the cert history that the cert that will expire in 19 days is NOT the same as the one issued 9 days later [the later contains the "www" FQDN]:

And now to the not so obvious...
If you checked the cert in use, you could determine if it is actually expiring in 19 days [or not].
If you used certbot, you could review the cert information with:
certbot certificates

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Please fill out all the questions of the questionnaire.

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Thanks Rudi,
As was abundantly obvious, I'm not a knowledgeable person in this matter.
Regards,
John

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If I knew how I would have Osiris.
Thanks,
John

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Hello @johnmhedge,

I suggest get the nameservers added to your DNS (i.e. DNS NS Records),
and get your DNS in good working order.

Let’s Encrypt offers Domain Validation (DV) certificates.

Since these are Domain Validation (DV) certificates the Domain Name System (DNS) is used extensively in the validation process as well a allowing us to assist here on Let's Encrypt community.
DNS Queries need to give consistent results from any location on the Internet, all your authoritative DNS Servers for the Domain need to also give consistent results as well.

https://whois.auda.org.au/ shows:

WHOIS Search Results
Domain Name: sydneybackgammonclub.org.au
Registry Domain ID: 75fd748f5d1b4a46b3c52ecac4487dc8-AU
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.auda.org.au
Registrar URL: https://elb.www.netregistry.com.au/contact-us/
Last Modified: 2024-07-11T11:31:32Z
Registrar Name: Melbourne IT
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@webcentral.com.au
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +61.279080901
Reseller Name: 
Status: serverRenewProhibited https://identitydigital.au/get-au/whois-status-codes#serverRenewProhibited
Status Reason: Not Currently Eligible For Renewal
Registrant Contact ID: 39e069e6fd164be6b1a6abe8382f6ae4-AU
Registrant Contact Name: John Hedge
Registrant Contact Email: john@hedge.com.au
Tech Contact ID: 035edab0082c4f6d97335bbb97716a64-AU
Tech Contact Name: John Hedge
Tech Contact Email: john@hedge.com.au
Name Server: ns1.netregistry.net
Name Server: ns2.netregistry.net
Name Server: ns3.netregistry.net
DNSSEC: unsigned
Registrant: SYDNEY BACKGAMMON CLUB INCORPORATED
Eligibility Type: Incorporated Association
Eligibility Name: Incorporation
Eligibility ID: OTHER 1601757
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2024-09-28T22:52:33Z <<<

Yet there does not seem to be any DNS NS Records

Nor here

Nor here

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Hi Bruce,
There are at least 2 errors in that report.

  1. sydneybackgammonclub.org.au is registered with WebCentral https://webcentral.au/
  2. My email address hasn't been at john@hedge.com.au for years. It is correctly registered at Webcentral as johnhedge@gmail.com
    Your own test shows the DNS passed the test so I don't understand your point.
    As to NS record/s please advise'
    Here's my screenshot

What should I input into 'NAME' and 'HOST' please?
Thanks,
John

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Without NS being in the DNS records, several places (not all) that look up your DNS IP Address records will fail. I strongly suggest adding the NS Records.

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Hi @johnmhedge,

Is the authoritative Whois for the .au ccTLD, and thus this is where the authoritative name servers can be found.

https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/au.html

Edit

Yet with nslookup, there are no name servers.

>nslookup -q=soa sydneybackgammonclub.org.au ns1.netregistry.net.
Server:         ns1.netregistry.net.
Address:        203.209.194.250#53

sydneybackgammonclub.org.au
        origin = ns1.netregistry.net
        mail addr = dmain.netregistry.net
        serial = 2024072901
        refresh = 86400
        retry = 7200
        expire = 3600000
        minimum = 172800
>nslookup -q=ns sydneybackgammonclub.org.au ns1.netregistry.net.
Server:         ns1.netregistry.net.
Address:        203.209.194.250#53

*** Can't find sydneybackgammonclub.org.au: No answer

But there is an A record

>nslookup -q=a sydneybackgammonclub.org.au ns1.netregistry.net.
Server:         ns1.netregistry.net.
Address:        203.209.194.250#53

Name:   sydneybackgammonclub.org.au
Address: 220.233.28.204

Edit 2

Regarding the TLS Certificate: SSL Server Test: sydneybackgammonclub.org.au (Powered by Qualys SSL Labs) shows the certificate

Serial Number 03fc24b3ef735e805b607af55e5ca97c04b0
Valid from Wed, 18 Sep 2024 23:14:37 UTC
Valid until Tue, 17 Dec 2024 23:14:36 UTC (expires in 2 months and 3 days)

Which is this certificate crt.sh | 14600829476

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Hi Bruce,
This gets more and more confusing.
They are and have been set up for ever.

John

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@johnmhedge it is definitely possible that the provider’s name servers are at fault here.
See Hardenize Report: sydneybackgammonclub.org.au
shows Name Server Operational issues

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That screenshot looks like the settings found at your domain registry.
The problem is within the netregistry DNS system.
Do you have access to a DNS panel [where you can add/remove DNS entries]?
If so, ensure that there are similar NS entries found therein.

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Hi Rudy,
As you may have surmised, I'm not comfortable with any of this.
The only panel I think I have access to is with WebCentral. See above.
What's the difference between a DNS and NS entry, please?
How do I get access to the netregistry?
TIA,
John

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Don't you pay them for service?

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The only entity I pay anything to is Webcentral for the domain name. I don't know about netregistry.
I run the Wordpress website on my own server.
I hope that answers your question Rudy.
John

I decided to Google for netregistry and Webcentral popped up!
I think we're going round in circles.

Then ask webcentral:
How can I modify my DNS records?

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to what?

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I had a long conversation with Webcentral who were very helpful and made the necessary changes.
I hope you agree.
John