Thank you for your advice. I need to read it through so that it makes sense and check out whether I can use one of the methods you suggest in my case. I don't mind manually updating an ssl certificate it is just the matter of being able to upload one. The cpanel php version my basic package comes with is version 8. I know it has PHP but I don't know what you would want me to do with it. I thought I could use ssh & putty to upload certbot but although 123reg allows me to switch access on it does not give me root access [admin] I am just a user. I know about acme clients but not which one I could use with my package. I will look into your advice. Many thanks again. Ian
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