Issue with acme challenging

Well,
I can't manage to do it.
Something is curious: the directories own to root

ls -ali /var/lib/letsencrypt

3801125 drwxr-x--- 4 root root 4096 août 15 18:36 .
3670018 drwxr-xr-x 82 root root 4096 juil. 28 13:36 ..
3801925 drwxr-x--- 3 root root 4096 mai 5 2016 backups
3802591 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 août 15 21:11 http_challenges

so I did: (I presume that www-data, the httpd user must get R/W rights

chgrp -R www-data /var/lib/letsencrypt

chmod g+w -R /var/lib/letsencrypt

then I add what is created by certbot into the VHost conf:

  Alias /.well-known /www/.well-known
  <Location /.well-known/acme-challenge>
    Require all granted
  </Location>

  <Directory /var/lib/letsencrypt/http_challenges>
    Require all granted
  </Directory>

but I was unable to get the test file from this new location

I also tried with following command without success

# ./letsencrypt-auto --test-cert --webroot-path /www/.well-known/acme-challenge --apache certonly -d phlinux.ovh