thanks, yes i can see that its unusual, i think i'll ditch csr.
i can't remember who told me to do that :-/
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Although that seems correct to a human, it might be problematic for others.
I'd try it with just the csr file.
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That's actually the opposite as what OP should do!
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Yes, left OR right (not both).
I'm just posing the right way to go right.
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Hmmm. I used their exact command and csr with snap's certbot 1.24 and it worked fine (post #14). And Osiris tried a variation earlier and it worked. Even if omitting -d worked with jonansell's homebrew 1.23 install I'm not sure it would be "right"
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Update:
Just an update.. certbot 1.24 just came out for homebrew and seems to have fixed whatever was wrong.
i was able to use:
sudo certbot certonly --manual --preferred-challenges dns
to create the test certs.
i have a slight issue with 1 DNS returning the wrong cert, but i'll start a new thread for that.
thanks for the help 
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