# Need a clarification about one of the rate limits **URL:** \ **Category:** Help\ **Created:** [March 31, 2022, 12:12pm UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/need-a-clarification-about-one-of-the-rate-limits/174878 "2022-03-31T12:12:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rborale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/letsencrypt/user_avatar/community.letsencrypt.org/rborale/32/73933_2.png) [@rborale](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/rborale)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 12:12pm UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/need-a-clarification-about-one-of-the-rate-limits/174878/1 "2022-03-31T12:12:32Z")
You have one of the rate limits as "300 domains / 3hours / account". So it means I can issue certificate for 300 domains per 3 hours per account. Does this number incude the renewals also? ---
**Author:** ![Osiris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/839c29/32.png) [@Osiris](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/Osiris)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 12:15pm UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/need-a-clarification-about-one-of-the-rate-limits/174878/2 "2022-03-31T12:15:42Z")
> [@rborale](#): > > You have one of the rate limits as "300 domains / 3hours / account". No such rate limit exists. ---
**Author:** ![9peppe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/letsencrypt/user_avatar/community.letsencrypt.org/9peppe/32/31596_2.png) [@9peppe](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/9peppe)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 12:15pm UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/need-a-clarification-about-one-of-the-rate-limits/174878/3 "2022-03-31T12:15:49Z")
> [You can create](https://letsencrypt.org/docs/rate-limits/) a maximum of 300 **New Orders** per account per 3 hours. A new order is created each time you request a certificate from the Boulder CA, meaning that one new order is produced in each certificate request. Exceeding the New Orders limit is reported with the error message `too many new orders recently` . > [@rborale](#): > > So it means I can issue certificate for 300 domains per 3 hours per account. Subject to other rate limits, (50 certificates/registered domain/week, 5 duplicates/week). It means you can issue for 30000 domains (300 orders, assuming none fail, with 100 domains per certificate) every three hours. > [@rborale](#): > > Does this number incude the renewals also? It's "orders," so yes. ---
**Author:** ![rborale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/letsencrypt/user_avatar/community.letsencrypt.org/rborale/32/73933_2.png) [@rborale](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/rborale)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 12:36pm UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/need-a-clarification-about-one-of-the-rate-limits/174878/4 "2022-03-31T12:36:09Z")
Thanks for the reply and the clarification, Here, I am talking about the single domain certificate (not san). So even for the renewal I have to create new order only and rate limit on new order is, 300 New Order per account per hour. Hence, I can have at max 300 certificate per account per hour including new certificate as well as renewals also, right? ---
**Author:** ![9peppe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/letsencrypt/user_avatar/community.letsencrypt.org/9peppe/32/31596_2.png) [@9peppe](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/9peppe)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 12:38pm UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/need-a-clarification-about-one-of-the-rate-limits/174878/5 "2022-03-31T12:38:23Z")
Yes, but you will probably hit other rate limits before that: - There is a **Failed Validation** limit of 5 failures per account, per hostname, per hour. - The main limit is **Certificates per Registered Domain** (50 per week). - Renewals are treated specially: they don’t count against your **Certificates per Registered Domain** limit, but they are subject to a **Duplicate Certificate** limit of 5 per week. ---
**Author:** ![rg305](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/letsencrypt/user_avatar/community.letsencrypt.org/rg305/32/91314_2.png) [@rg305](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/rg305)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/need-a-clarification-about-one-of-the-rate-limits/174878/6 "2022-03-31T19:45:44Z")
> [@rborale](#): > > Here, I am talking about the single domain certificate (not san). But are they all from the same domain or all from different domains? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/letsencrypt/original/3X/c/a/ca6c06ea1ea201324bba7048c6841ce60236468d.png) [@system](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/need-a-clarification-about-one-of-the-rate-limits/174878/7 "2022-04-30T19:45:51Z")
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