# Letsencrypt renewal informations data

**URL:** <https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/letsencrypt-renewal-informations-data/93067>\
**Category:** Help\
**Created:** [May 8, 2019, 9:46am UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/letsencrypt-renewal-informations-data/93067 "2019-05-08T09:46:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![danjde](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/letsencrypt/user_avatar/community.letsencrypt.org/danjde/32/8575_2.png) [@danjde](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/danjde)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 9:46am UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/letsencrypt-renewal-informations-data/93067/1 "2019-05-08T09:46:10Z")

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Hi Friends,  
I am receiving on 05/05/2019 22:39 e-mail from Letsencrypt where notify me the expiration certificate for domain [3x1t.org](http://3x1t.org), but in the meantime certbot+cron has already renewed it.  
I’ve seen a lot of post around this issue, but excuse me for my difficulty in understanding, but I would to know if is it possible to customize this behaviour, maybe to receiving these emails only if the renewal is not successful within the last 10/15 days validity?

Also, could you suggest me a trick to check on the fly if and when certbot+cron did the renewal correctly (for my heart… 😛 )?

Thanks thanks!!

Davide

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**Author:** ![JuergenAuer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/letsencrypt/user_avatar/community.letsencrypt.org/juergenauer/32/26491_2.png) [@JuergenAuer](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/JuergenAuer)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 10:46am UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/letsencrypt-renewal-informations-data/93067/2 "2019-05-08T10:46:23Z")

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Hi @danjde

> [@danjde](#):
>
> maybe to receiving these emails only if the renewal is not successful within the last 10/15 days validity?

checking your active certificates there are a lot ( [https://check-your-website.server-daten.de/?q=3x1t.org#ct-logs](https://check-your-website.server-daten.de/?q=3x1t.org#ct-logs) ):

| Issuer | not before | not after | Domain names | LE-Duplicate | next LE |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| | CN=Let's Encrypt Authority X3, O=Let's Encrypt, C=US | 2019-04-10 10:02:47 | 2019-07-09 10:02:47 | [3x1t.org](http://3x1t.org), [autoconfig.3x1t.org](http://autoconfig.3x1t.org), [autodiscover.3x1t.org](http://autodiscover.3x1t.org), [converse.3x1t.org](http://converse.3x1t.org), [lists.3x1t.org](http://lists.3x1t.org), [mail.3x1t.org](http://mail.3x1t.org), [server.3x1t.org](http://server.3x1t.org), [smtp.3x1t.org](http://smtp.3x1t.org), [upload.3x1t.org](http://upload.3x1t.org), [upload.server.3x1t.org](http://upload.server.3x1t.org), [www.3x1t.org](http://www.3x1t.org), [www.converse.3x1t.org](http://www.converse.3x1t.org) | |
| 12 entries | | | | | |
| | CN=Let's Encrypt Authority X3, O=Let's Encrypt, C=US | 2019-04-06 07:15:48 | 2019-07-05 07:15:48 | [3x1t.org](http://3x1t.org), [autoconfig.server.3x1t.org](http://autoconfig.server.3x1t.org), [autodiscover.server.3x1t.org](http://autodiscover.server.3x1t.org), [converse.3x1t.org](http://converse.3x1t.org), [lists.3x1t.org](http://lists.3x1t.org), [mail.3x1t.org](http://mail.3x1t.org), [server.3x1t.org](http://server.3x1t.org), [smtp.3x1t.org](http://smtp.3x1t.org), [upload.3x1t.org](http://upload.3x1t.org), [upload.server.3x1t.org](http://upload.server.3x1t.org), [www.3x1t.org](http://www.3x1t.org), [www.converse.3x1t.org](http://www.converse.3x1t.org) | |
| 12 entries | | | | | |
| | CN=Let's Encrypt Authority X3, O=Let's Encrypt, C=US | 2019-03-26 20:12:33 | 2019-06-24 20:12:33 | [3x1t.org](http://3x1t.org), [autoconfig.server.3x1t.org](http://autoconfig.server.3x1t.org), [autodiscover.server.3x1t.org](http://autodiscover.server.3x1t.org), [lists.3x1t.org](http://lists.3x1t.org), [mail.3x1t.org](http://mail.3x1t.org), [server.3x1t.org](http://server.3x1t.org), [smtp.3x1t.org](http://smtp.3x1t.org), [upload.3x1t.org](http://upload.3x1t.org), [upload.server.3x1t.org](http://upload.server.3x1t.org), [www.3x1t.org](http://www.3x1t.org) | |
| 10 entries | | | | | |
| | CN=Let's Encrypt Authority X3, O=Let's Encrypt, C=US | 2019-03-08 20:23:38 | 2019-06-06 20:23:38 | [3x1t.org](http://3x1t.org), [autoconfig.3x1t.org](http://autoconfig.3x1t.org), [autodiscover.3x1t.org](http://autodiscover.3x1t.org), [conference.3x1t.org](http://conference.3x1t.org), [conference.server.3x1t.org](http://conference.server.3x1t.org), [lists.3x1t.org](http://lists.3x1t.org), [mail.3x1t.org](http://mail.3x1t.org), [server.3x1t.org](http://server.3x1t.org), [smtp.3x1t.org](http://smtp.3x1t.org), [www.3x1t.org](http://www.3x1t.org) | |
| 10 entries | | | | | |
| | CN=Let's Encrypt Authority X3, O=Let's Encrypt, C=US | 2019-03-08 19:52:35 | 2019-06-06 19:52:35 | [3x1t.org](http://3x1t.org), [autoconfig.server.3x1t.org](http://autoconfig.server.3x1t.org), [autodiscover.server.3x1t.org](http://autodiscover.server.3x1t.org), [conference.3x1t.org](http://conference.3x1t.org), [conference.server.3x1t.org](http://conference.server.3x1t.org), [lists.3x1t.org](http://lists.3x1t.org), [mail.3x1t.org](http://mail.3x1t.org), [server.3x1t.org](http://server.3x1t.org), [smtp.3x1t.org](http://smtp.3x1t.org), [www.3x1t.org](http://www.3x1t.org) | |
| 10 entries | | | | | |
| | CN=Let's Encrypt Authority X3, O=Let's Encrypt, C=US | 2019-03-01 10:12:10 | 2019-05-30 10:12:10 | [3x1t.org](http://3x1t.org), [conference.3x1t.org](http://conference.3x1t.org), [conference.server.3x1t.org](http://conference.server.3x1t.org), [lists.3x1t.org](http://lists.3x1t.org), [mail.3x1t.org](http://mail.3x1t.org), [server.3x1t.org](http://server.3x1t.org), [smtp.3x1t.org](http://smtp.3x1t.org), [www.3x1t.org](http://www.3x1t.org) | |
| 8 entries | | | | | |
| | CN=Let's Encrypt Authority X3, O=Let's Encrypt, C=US | 2019-02-24 20:36:59 | 2019-05-25 20:36:59 | [3x1t.org](http://3x1t.org), [conference.3x1t.org](http://conference.3x1t.org), [conference.server.3x1t.org](http://conference.server.3x1t.org), [lists.3x1t.org](http://lists.3x1t.org), [server.3x1t.org](http://server.3x1t.org), [www.3x1t.org](http://www.3x1t.org) | |
| 6 entries | | | | | |
| | CN=Let's Encrypt Authority X3, O=Let's Encrypt, C=US | 2019-02-16 15:59:51 | 2019-05-17 15:59:51 | [3x1t.org](http://3x1t.org), [conference.3x1t.org](http://conference.3x1t.org), [conference.server.3x1t.org](http://conference.server.3x1t.org), [server.3x1t.org](http://server.3x1t.org), [www.3x1t.org](http://www.3x1t.org) | |
| 5 entries | | | | | |

12 entries, 10 entries, 8 entries etc.

Letsencrypt doesn't know which certificate you use.

If a certificate isn't renewed (newer certificate with the same set of domain names), a mail is sent.

So if you change the set of domain names -\> you will have a mail.

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**Author:** ![danjde](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/letsencrypt/user_avatar/community.letsencrypt.org/danjde/32/8575_2.png) [@danjde](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/danjde)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/letsencrypt-renewal-informations-data/93067/3 "2019-05-09T20:28:17Z")

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Thanks [JuergenAuer](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/JuergenAuer) for your kind explanation!  
Now it’s more clear for me 😜  
Anyway, in general, perhaps for the first year should be disabled the email warning, since several changes are made, at least in my case…

Thanks again!

Davide

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**Author:** ![danjde](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/letsencrypt/user_avatar/community.letsencrypt.org/danjde/32/8575_2.png) [@danjde](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/danjde)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 10:59am UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/letsencrypt-renewal-informations-data/93067/4 "2019-05-20T10:59:28Z")

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Sorry if I return to the subject, but two thing I would like to understand better:

1. Is it correct that I have these active certificates or should I revoke the obsolete ones (which became obsolete as a result of the addition of domains)?
2. Is it correct the way I add domains or should I run a different command that somehow avoids generating a new certificate every time?

Thanks again!

Davide

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**Author:** ![danb35](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/letsencrypt/user_avatar/community.letsencrypt.org/danb35/32/70869_2.png) [@danb35](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/danb35)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 11:08am UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/letsencrypt-renewal-informations-data/93067/5 "2019-05-20T11:08:39Z")

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> [@danjde](#):
>
> should I revoke the obsolete ones

The only reason for you to revoke a certificate is if you believe the private key has been compromised.

> [@danjde](#):
>
> should I run a different command that somehow avoids generating a new certificate every time?

Once created, certificates are immutable. Thus, the only way to "change" them (add or remove domains, etc.) is to generate a new cert.

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**Author:** ![JuergenAuer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/letsencrypt/user_avatar/community.letsencrypt.org/juergenauer/32/26491_2.png) [@JuergenAuer](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/JuergenAuer)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/letsencrypt-renewal-informations-data/93067/6 "2019-05-20T13:15:43Z")

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> [@danjde](#):
>
> Is it correct that I have these active certificates

You can delete these not longer used certificates.

```nohighlight
certbot certificates

```

then

```nohighlight
certbot delete [certificatename]

```

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**Author:** ![danjde](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/letsencrypt/user_avatar/community.letsencrypt.org/danjde/32/8575_2.png) [@danjde](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/danjde)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 8:28am UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/letsencrypt-renewal-informations-data/93067/7 "2019-05-21T08:28:05Z")

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> [@JuergenAuer](#):
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> You can delete these not longer used certificates.
> 
> ```nohighlight
> certbot certificates
> 
> ```

Well, but if I run

```nohighlight
certbot certificates

```

obtain only one certificate, and not all listed by "[check-your-website.server-daten.de](http://check-your-website.server-daten.de)"  
is it right this?

Thanks again!

Davide

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**Author:** ![JuergenAuer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/letsencrypt/user_avatar/community.letsencrypt.org/juergenauer/32/26491_2.png) [@JuergenAuer](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/JuergenAuer)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 9:09am UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/letsencrypt-renewal-informations-data/93067/8 "2019-05-21T09:09:30Z")

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> [@danjde](#):
>
> Well, but if I run
> 
> ```nohighlight
> certbot certificates
> 
> ```
> 
> obtain only one certificate

Your certificates

```nohighlight
3x1t.org, autoconfig.3x1t.org, autodiscover.3x1t.org, 
converse.3x1t.org, lists.3x1t.org, mail.3x1t.org, 
server.3x1t.org, smtp.3x1t.org, upload.3x1t.org, 
upload.server.3x1t.org, www.3x1t.org, www.converse.3x1t.org
12 entries 

```

are looking like they are not created manual. Looks like a control-panel generated certificate.

If you see only one certificate, then it's ok. Olders may be in the archive folder or --expand or something else was used.

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**Author:** ![danjde](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/letsencrypt/user_avatar/community.letsencrypt.org/danjde/32/8575_2.png) [@danjde](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/danjde)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/letsencrypt-renewal-informations-data/93067/9 "2019-05-22T19:32:44Z")

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This certificate (with 12 entries) was created automatically by my own cron daemon, using the following code:

`certbot certonly --cert-name server.3x1t.org --webroot -w /var/www/letsencrypt --email 3x1t@3x1t.org --deploy-hook /usr/local/bin/certbot-deploy-hook --expand -d server.3x1t.org -d 3x1t.org -d www.3x1t.org -d lists.3x1t.org -d smtp.3x1t.org -d mail.3x1t.org -d autodiscover.server.3x1t.org -d autoconfig.server.3x1t.org -d upload.server.3x1t.org -d upload.3x1t.org -d www.converse.3x1t.org -d converse.3x1t.org -d _xmpp-server._tcp.conference.3x1t.org -d _xmpp-server._tcp.conference.3x1t.org -d _xmpp-server._tcp.conference.server.3x1t.org -d _xmpp-server._tcp.conference.server.3x1t.org`

> [@JuergenAuer](#):
>
> If you see only one certificate, then it’s ok. Olders may be in the archive folder or [..]

Yes, but why Letsencrypt email reminder send my notification expiry about certificates that I cannot see using " certbot certificates"?  
And Eventually can I "purge" Letsencrypt email reminder for those obsolete certificates (that I cannot see)?

Many thanks again!! 🙂

Davide

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**Author:** ![JuergenAuer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/letsencrypt/user_avatar/community.letsencrypt.org/juergenauer/32/26491_2.png) [@JuergenAuer](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/JuergenAuer)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/letsencrypt-renewal-informations-data/93067/10 "2019-05-22T19:34:39Z")

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> [@danjde](#):
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> Yes, but why Letsencrypt email reminder send my notification expiry about certificates that I cannot see using " certbot certificates"?

That's simple. You use the `--expand` parameter, so Certbot overrides the existing configuration.

But Letsencrypt doesn't know what your client is doing.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/letsencrypt/original/3X/c/a/ca6c06ea1ea201324bba7048c6841ce60236468d.png) [@system](https://community.letsencrypt.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/letsencrypt-renewal-informations-data/93067/11 "2019-06-21T19:34:48Z")

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